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din_dout_pintable [2006/02/06 00:34] smashtv |
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| - | !!! MIOS DIN/DOUT Pin Numbers | + | **MIOS DIN/DOUT Pin Numbers** |
| Sometimes the pin numbers of special DINs or DOUTs can be specified in the | Sometimes the pin numbers of special DINs or DOUTs can be specified in the | ||
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| Examples: | Examples: | ||
| - | <PRE>''#define DEFAULT_MIDI_RX_LED 0x40 ; DOUT SR#9, pin D0 | + | <file>#define DEFAULT_MIDI_RX_LED 0x40 ; DOUT SR#9, pin D0 |
| - | #define DEFAULT_MIDI_TX_LED 0x41 ; DOUT SR#9, pin D1''</PRE> | + | #define DEFAULT_MIDI_TX_LED 0x41 ; DOUT SR#9, pin D1</file> |
| or | or | ||
| - | ''#define DEFAULT_DIN_MENU_EXEC 7 ; menu exec button assigned to DIN pin #7 | + | <file>#define DEFAULT_DIN_MENU_EXEC 7 ; menu exec button assigned to DIN pin #7 |
| #define DEFAULT_DIN_MENU_SNAPSHOT 6 ; menu snapshot button assigned to DIN pin #4 | #define DEFAULT_DIN_MENU_SNAPSHOT 6 ; menu snapshot button assigned to DIN pin #4 | ||
| #define DEFAULT_DIN_MENU_RIGHT 5 ; NOT USED - overlayed by datawheel | #define DEFAULT_DIN_MENU_RIGHT 5 ; NOT USED - overlayed by datawheel | ||
| - | #define DEFAULT_DIN_MENU_LEFT 4 ; NOT USED - overlayed by datawheel'' | + | #define DEFAULT_DIN_MENU_LEFT 4 ; NOT USED - overlayed by datawheel</file> |
| or | or | ||
| - | '' ;; SR Pin Mode | + | <file> ;; SR Pin Mode |
| ENC_ENTRY 5, 0, MIOS_ENC_MODE_NON_DETENTED ; V-Pot 1 | ENC_ENTRY 5, 0, MIOS_ENC_MODE_NON_DETENTED ; V-Pot 1 | ||
| ENC_ENTRY 5, 2, MIOS_ENC_MODE_NON_DETENTED ; V-Pot 2 | ENC_ENTRY 5, 2, MIOS_ENC_MODE_NON_DETENTED ; V-Pot 2 | ||
| ENC_ENTRY 5, 4, MIOS_ENC_MODE_NON_DETENTED ; V-Pot 3 | ENC_ENTRY 5, 4, MIOS_ENC_MODE_NON_DETENTED ; V-Pot 3 | ||
| - | ENC_ENTRY 5, 6, MIOS_ENC_MODE_NON_DETENTED ; V-Pot 4'' | + | ENC_ENTRY 5, 6, MIOS_ENC_MODE_NON_DETENTED ; V-Pot 4</file> |
| The following table should give you a quick overview over the numbers. Please | The following table should give you a quick overview over the numbers. Please | ||
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| In the meantime I've tried to make the setup more consistent. Shiftregisters | In the meantime I've tried to make the setup more consistent. Shiftregisters | ||
| are always counted from 1, and pins are always counted from 0 | are always counted from 1, and pins are always counted from 0 | ||
| + | \\ | ||
| + | \\ | ||
| + | --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | ||
| + | **Important Note: for DOUT shift registers, software pin-numbers will be reflected in reverse | ||
| + | direction on hardware level:** | ||
| + | pin-number 0 (software level) is D7 of the first shift register (hardware level), not D0!\\ | ||
| + | pin-number 15 (software level) is D0 of the second shift register(hardware level), not D7!\\ | ||
| + | |||
| + | The first shift register is for both DIN and DOUT the one that is closest to the core on hardware | ||
| + | level. | ||
| + | |||
| + | In the datasheets of the shift-register IC's, D0 is often labled A / QA, D7 is labled H / QH.\\ | ||
| + | In TK's layouts the labels for IC-pins are I0 - I7, O0 - 07, which corresponds to A/QA - H/QH. | ||
| + | |||
| + | DIN chain hardware-level: CORE <- R1::qH <- R1::H <- R1 <- R1::G ..... R2::qH <- R2::H etc.\\ | ||
| + | The first bit read is DIN1::I7, this goes to the MSB on software level. MSB represents the higher | ||
| + | pin value, so you have the same order in hard- as in software. | ||
| + | |||
| + | DOUT chain hardware-level: CORE -> R1::SER -> R1::A -> R1::B -> R1::C ..... R2::SER -> R2::A etc.\\ | ||
| + | first bit pushed out is LSB of the last SR(software level), this goes to Rlast::H. Last bit pushed out is MSB of first SR (software level), | ||
| + | this goes to R1:A. On software level, MSB represents the higher pin value, so A will represent alway the higher pin value on hw-level for | ||
| + | DOUT chains. | ||
| + | |||
| + | If you want to read more about this, refer this forum discussion:\\ | ||
| + | http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php/topic,12379.0.html | ||
| + | |||
| + | See also the following table to get a clearer picture. The shift registers have the same order on | ||
| + | hardware than on software level. | ||
| + | |||
| + | MIOS_DOUT_SRSet / MIOS_DOUT_SRGet / MIOS_DIN_SRSet / MIOS_DIN_SRGet: LSB always reflects the | ||
| + | lowest pin number, MSB the highest pin number. | ||
| + | --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | ||
| + | \\ | ||
| + | \\ | ||
| Ok, here the table: | Ok, here the table: | ||
| - | ^ Shift Register ^ SR number ^ Pin Name ^ Pin Number ^ Hex number ^ | + | ^ Shift Register ^ SR number ^ Pin Number (sw) ^ Pin Hex number (sw) ^ Pin Name (DIN PCB / SR IC) ^ Pin Name (DOUT PCB / SR IC) ^ |
| - | | first | 1 | D0 | 0 | 0x00 | | + | |first|1|0|0x00|D0 / QA|D7 / H| |
| - | | first | 1 | D1 | 1 | 0x01 | | + | |first|1|1|0x00|D1 / QB|D6 / G| |
| - | | first | 1 | D2 | 2 | 0x02 | | + | |first|1|2|0x00|D2 / QC|D5 / F| |
| - | | first | 1 | D3 | 3 | 0x03 | | + | |first|1|3|0x00|D3 / QD|D4 / E| |
| - | | first | 1 | D4 | 4 | 0x04 | | + | |first|1|4|0x00|D4 / QE|D3 / D| |
| - | | first | 1 | D5 | 5 | 0x05 | | + | |first|1|5|0x00|D5 / QF|D2 / C| |
| - | | first | 1 | D6 | 6 | 0x06 | | + | |first|1|6|0x00|D6 / QG|D1 / B| |
| - | | first | 1 | D7 | 7 | 0x07 | | + | |first|1|7|0x00|D7 / QH|D0 / A| |
| - | | ||||| | + | ||||||| |
| - | | second | 2 | D0 | 8 | 0x08 | | + | |second|2|8|0x0 8|D0 / QA|D7 / H| |
| - | | second | 2 | D1 | 9 | 0x09 | | + | |second|2|9|0x0 9|D1 / QB|D6 / G| |
| - | | second | 2 | D2 | 10 | 0x0a | | + | |second|2|10|0x0a|D2 / QC|D5 / F| |
| - | | second | 2 | D3 | 11 | 0x0b | | + | |second|2|11|0x0b|D3 / QD|D4 / E| |
| - | | second | 2 | D4 | 12 | 0x0c | | + | |second|2|12|0x0c|D4 / QE|D3 / D| |
| - | | second | 2 | D5 | 13 | 0x0d | | + | |second|2|13|0x0d|D5 / QF|D2 / C| |
| - | | second | 2 | D6 | 14 | 0x0e | | + | |second|2|14|0x0e|D6 / QG|D1 / B| |
| - | | second | 2 | D7 | 15 | 0x0f | | + | |second|2|15|0x0f|D7 / QH|D0 / A| |
| - | | ||||| | + | ||||||| |
| - | | third | 3 | D0 | 16 | 0x10 | | + | |third|3|16|0x10|D0 / QA|D7 / H| |
| - | | third | 3 | D1 | 17 | 0x11 | | + | |third|3|17|0x11|D1 / QB|D6 / G| |
| - | | third | 3 | D2 | 18 | 0x12 | | + | |third|3|18|0x12|D2 / QC|D5 / F| |
| - | | third | 3 | D3 | 19 | 0x13 | | + | |third|3|19|0x13|D3 / QD|D4 / E| |
| - | | third | 3 | D4 | 20 | 0x14 | | + | |third|3|20|0x14|D4 / QE|D3 / D| |
| - | | third | 3 | D5 | 21 | 0x15 | | + | |third|3|21|0x15|D5 / QF|D2 / C| |
| - | | third | 3 | D6 | 22 | 0x16 | | + | |third|3|22|0x16|D6 / QG|D1 / B| |
| - | | third | 3 | D7 | 23 | 0x17 | | + | |third|3|23|0x17|D7 / QH|D0 / A| |
| - | | ||||| | + | ||||||| |
| - | | fourth | 4 | D0 | 24 | 0x18 | | + | |fourth|4|24|0x18|D0 / QA|D7 / H| |
| - | | fourth | 4 | D1 | 25 | 0x19 | | + | |fourth|4|25|0x19|D1 / QB|D6 / G| |
| - | | fourth | 4 | D2 | 26 | 0x1a | | + | |fourth|4|26|0x1a|D2 / QC|D5 / F| |
| - | | fourth | 4 | D3 | 27 | 0x1b | | + | |fourth|4|27|0x1b|D3 / QD|D4 / E| |
| - | | fourth | 4 | D4 | 28 | 0x1c | | + | |fourth|4|28|0x1c|D4 / QE|D3 / D| |
| - | | fourth | 4 | D5 | 29 | 0x1d | | + | |fourth|4|29|0x1d|D5 / QF|D2 / C| |
| - | | fourth | 4 | D6 | 30 | 0x1e | | + | |fourth|4|30|0x1e|D6 / QG|D1 / B| |
| - | | fourth | 4 | D7 | 31 | 0x1f | | + | |fourth|4|31|0x1f|D7 / QH|D0 / A| |
| - | | ||||| | + | ||||||| |
| - | | fifth | 5 | D0 | 32 | 0x20 | | + | |fifth|5|32|0x20|D0 / QA|D7 / H| |
| - | | fifth | 5 | D1 | 33 | 0x21 | | + | |fifth|5|33|0x21|D1 / QB|D6 / G| |
| - | | fifth | 5 | D2 | 34 | 0x22 | | + | |fifth|5|34|0x22|D2 / QC|D5 / F| |
| - | | fifth | 5 | D3 | 35 | 0x23 | | + | |fifth|5|35|0x23|D3 / QD|D4 / E| |
| - | | fifth | 5 | D4 | 36 | 0x24 | | + | |fifth|5|36|0x24|D4 / QE|D3 / D| |
| - | | fifth | 5 | D5 | 37 | 0x25 | | + | |fifth|5|37|0x25|D5 / QF|D2 / C| |
| - | | fifth | 5 | D6 | 38 | 0x26 | | + | |fifth|5|38|0x26|D6 / QG|D1 / B| |
| - | | fifth | 5 | D7 | 39 | 0x27 | | + | |fifth|5|39|0x27|D7 / QH|D0 / A| |
| - | | ||||| | + | ||||||| |
| - | | sixth | 6 | D0 | 40 | 0x28 | | + | |sixth|6|40|0x2 8|D0 / QA|D7 / H| |
| - | | sixth | 6 | D1 | 41 | 0x29 | | + | |sixth|6|41|0x2 9|D1 / QB|D6 / G| |
| - | | sixth | 6 | D2 | 42 | 0x2a | | + | |sixth|6|42|0x2a|D2 / QC|D5 / F| |
| - | | sixth | 6 | D3 | 43 | 0x2b | | + | |sixth|6|43|0x2b|D3 / QD|D4 / E| |
| - | | sixth | 6 | D4 | 44 | 0x2c | | + | |sixth|6|44|0x2c|D4 / QE|D3 / D| |
| - | | sixth | 6 | D5 | 45 | 0x2d | | + | |sixth|6|45|0x2d|D5 / QF|D2 / C| |
| - | | sixth | 6 | D6 | 46 | 0x2e | | + | |sixth|6|46|0x2e|D6 / QG|D1 / B| |
| - | | sixth | 6 | D7 | 47 | 0x2f | | + | |sixth|6|47|0x2f|D7 / QH|D0 / A| |
| - | | ||||| | + | ||||||| |
| - | | seventh | 7 | D0 | 48 | 0x30 | | + | |seventh|7|48|0x30|D0 / QA|D7 / H| |
| - | | seventh | 7 | D1 | 49 | 0x31 | | + | |seventh|7|49|0x31|D1 / QB|D6 / G| |
| - | | seventh | 7 | D2 | 50 | 0x32 | | + | |seventh|7|50|0x32|D2 / QC|D5 / F| |
| - | | seventh | 7 | D3 | 51 | 0x33 | | + | |seventh|7|51|0x33|D3 / QD|D4 / E| |
| - | | seventh | 7 | D4 | 52 | 0x34 | | + | |seventh|7|52|0x34|D4 / QE|D3 / D| |
| - | | seventh | 7 | D5 | 53 | 0x35 | | + | |seventh|7|53|0x35|D5 / QF|D2 / C| |
| - | | seventh | 7 | D6 | 54 | 0x36 | | + | |seventh|7|54|0x36|D6 / QG|D1 / B| |
| - | | seventh | 7 | D7 | 55 | 0x37 | | + | |seventh|7|55|0x37|D7 / QH|D0 / A| |
| - | | ||||| | + | ||||||| |
| - | | eighth | 8 | D0 | 56 | 0x38 | | + | |eighth|8|56|0x3 8|D0 / QA|D7 / H| |
| - | | eighth | 8 | D1 | 57 | 0x39 | | + | |eighth|8|57|0x3 9|D1 / QB|D6 / G| |
| - | | eighth | 8 | D2 | 58 | 0x3a | | + | |eighth|8|58|0x3a|D2 / QC|D5 / F| |
| - | | eighth | 8 | D3 | 59 | 0x3b | | + | |eighth|8|59|0x3b|D3 / QD|D4 / E| |
| - | | eighth | 8 | D4 | 60 | 0x3c | | + | |eighth|8|60|0x3c|D4 / QE|D3 / D| |
| - | | eighth | 8 | D5 | 61 | 0x3d | | + | |eighth|8|61|0x3d|D5 / QF|D2 / C| |
| - | | eighth | 8 | D6 | 62 | 0x3e | | + | |eighth|8|62|0x3e|D6 / QG|D1 / B| |
| - | | eighth | 8 | D7 | 63 | 0x3f | | + | |eighth|8|63|0x3f|D7 / QH|D0 / A| |
| - | | ||||| | + | ||||||| |
| - | | ninth | 9 | D0 | 64 | 0x40 | | + | |ninth|9|64|0x40|D0 / QA|D7 / H| |
| - | | ninth | 9 | D1 | 65 | 0x41 | | + | |ninth|9|65|0x41|D1 / QB|D6 / G| |
| - | | ninth | 9 | D2 | 66 | 0x42 | | + | |ninth|9|66|0x42|D2 / QC|D5 / F| |
| - | | ninth | 9 | D3 | 67 | 0x43 | | + | |ninth|9|67|0x43|D3 / QD|D4 / E| |
| - | | ninth | 9 | D4 | 68 | 0x44 | | + | |ninth|9|68|0x44|D4 / QE|D3 / D| |
| - | | ninth | 9 | D5 | 69 | 0x45 | | + | |ninth|9|69|0x45|D5 / QF|D2 / C| |
| - | | ninth | 9 | D6 | 70 | 0x46 | | + | |ninth|9|70|0x46|D6 / QG|D1 / B| |
| - | | ninth | 9 | D7 | 71 | 0x47 | | + | |ninth|9|71|0x47|D7 / QH|D0 / A| |
| - | | ||||| | + | ||||||| |
| - | | tenth | 10 | D0 | 72 | 0x48 | | + | |tenth|10|72|0x4 8|D0 / QA|D7 / H| |
| - | | tenth | 10 | D1 | 73 | 0x49 | | + | |tenth|10|73|0x4 9|D1 / QB|D6 / G| |
| - | | tenth | 10 | D2 | 74 | 0x4a | | + | |tenth|10|74|0x4a|D2 / QC|D5 / F| |
| - | | tenth | 10 | D3 | 75 | 0x4b | | + | |tenth|10|75|0x4b|D3 / QD|D4 / E| |
| - | | tenth | 10 | D4 | 76 | 0x4c | | + | |tenth|10|76|0x4c|D4 / QE|D3 / D| |
| - | | tenth | 10 | D5 | 77 | 0x4d | | + | |tenth|10|77|0x4d|D5 / QF|D2 / C| |
| - | | tenth | 10 | D6 | 78 | 0x4e | | + | |tenth|10|78|0x4e|D6 / QG|D1 / B| |
| - | | tenth | 10 | D7 | 79 | 0x4f | | + | |tenth|10|79|0x4f|D7 / QH|D0 / A| |
| - | | ||||| | + | ||||||| |
| - | | eleventh | 11 | D0 | 80 | 0x50 | | + | |eleventh|11|80|0x50|D0 / QA|D7 / H| |
| - | | eleventh | 11 | D1 | 81 | 0x51 | | + | |eleventh|11|81|0x51|D1 / QB|D6 / G| |
| - | | eleventh | 11 | D2 | 82 | 0x52 | | + | |eleventh|11|82|0x52|D2 / QC|D5 / F| |
| - | | eleventh | 11 | D3 | 83 | 0x53 | | + | |eleventh|11|83|0x53|D3 / QD|D4 / E| |
| - | | eleventh | 11 | D4 | 84 | 0x54 | | + | |eleventh|11|84|0x54|D4 / QE|D3 / D| |
| - | | eleventh | 11 | D5 | 85 | 0x55 | | + | |eleventh|11|85|0x55|D5 / QF|D2 / C| |
| - | | eleventh | 11 | D6 | 86 | 0x56 | | + | |eleventh|11|86|0x56|D6 / QG|D1 / B| |
| - | | eleventh | 11 | D7 | 87 | 0x57 | | + | |eleventh|11|87|0x57|D7 / QH|D0 / A| |
| - | | ||||| | + | ||||||| |
| - | | twelfth | 12 | D0 | 88 | 0x58 | | + | |twelfth|12|88|0x5 8|D0 / QA|D7 / H| |
| - | | twelfth | 12 | D1 | 89 | 0x59 | | + | |twelfth|12|89|0x5 9|D1 / QB|D6 / G| |
| - | | twelfth | 12 | D2 | 90 | 0x5a | | + | |twelfth|12|90|0x5a|D2 / QC|D5 / F| |
| - | | twelfth | 12 | D3 | 91 | 0x5b | | + | |twelfth|12|91|0x5b|D3 / QD|D4 / E| |
| - | | twelfth | 12 | D4 | 92 | 0x5c | | + | |twelfth|12|92|0x5c|D4 / QE|D3 / D| |
| - | | twelfth | 12 | D5 | 93 | 0x5d | | + | |twelfth|12|93|0x5d|D5 / QF|D2 / C| |
| - | | twelfth | 12 | D6 | 94 | 0x5e | | + | |twelfth|12|94|0x5e|D6 / QG|D1 / B| |
| - | | twelfth | 12 | D7 | 95 | 0x5f | | + | |twelfth|12|95|0x5f|D7 / QH|D0 / A| |
| - | | ||||| | + | ||||||| |
| - | | thirteenth | 13 | D0 | 96 | 0x60 | | + | |thirteenth|13|96|0x60|D0 / QA|D7 / H| |
| - | | thirteenth | 13 | D1 | 97 | 0x61 | | + | |thirteenth|13|97|0x61|D1 / QB|D6 / G| |
| - | | thirteenth | 13 | D2 | 98 | 0x62 | | + | |thirteenth|13|98|0x62|D2 / QC|D5 / F| |
| - | | thirteenth | 13 | D3 | 99 | 0x63 | | + | |thirteenth|13|99|0x63|D3 / QD|D4 / E| |
| - | | thirteenth | 13 | D4 | 100 | 0x64 | | + | |thirteenth|13|100|0x64|D4 / QE|D3 / D| |
| - | | thirteenth | 13 | D5 | 101 | 0x65 | | + | |thirteenth|13|101|0x65|D5 / QF|D2 / C| |
| - | | thirteenth | 13 | D6 | 102 | 0x66 | | + | |thirteenth|13|102|0x66|D6 / QG|D1 / B| |
| - | | thirteenth | 13 | D7 | 103 | 0x67 | | + | |thirteenth|13|103|0x67|D7 / QH|D0 / A| |
| - | | ||||| | + | ||||||| |
| - | | fourteenth | 14 | D0 | 104 | 0x68 | | + | |fourteenth|14|104|0x6 8|D0 / QA|D7 / H| |
| - | | fourteenth | 14 | D1 | 105 | 0x69 | | + | |fourteenth|14|105|0x6 9|D1 / QB|D6 / G| |
| - | | fourteenth | 14 | D2 | 106 | 0x6a | | + | |fourteenth|14|106|0x6a|D2 / QC|D5 / F| |
| - | | fourteenth | 14 | D3 | 107 | 0x6b | | + | |fourteenth|14|107|0x6b|D3 / QD|D4 / E| |
| - | | fourteenth | 14 | D4 | 108 | 0x6c | | + | |fourteenth|14|108|0x6c|D4 / QE|D3 / D| |
| - | | fourteenth | 14 | D5 | 109 | 0x6d | | + | |fourteenth|14|109|0x6d|D5 / QF|D2 / C| |
| - | | fourteenth | 14 | D6 | 110 | 0x6e | | + | |fourteenth|14|110|0x6e|D6 / QG|D1 / B| |
| - | | fourteenth | 14 | D7 | 111 | 0x6f | | + | |fourteenth|14|111|0x6f|D7 / QH|D0 / A| |
| - | | ||||| | + | ||||||| |
| - | | fifteenth | 15 | D0 | 112 | 0x70 | | + | |fifteenth|15|112|0x70|D0 / QA|D7 / H| |
| - | | fifteenth | 15 | D1 | 113 | 0x71 | | + | |fifteenth|15|113|0x71|D1 / QB|D6 / G| |
| - | | fifteenth | 15 | D2 | 114 | 0x72 | | + | |fifteenth|15|114|0x72|D2 / QC|D5 / F| |
| - | | fifteenth | 15 | D3 | 115 | 0x73 | | + | |fifteenth|15|115|0x73|D3 / QD|D4 / E| |
| - | | fifteenth | 15 | D4 | 116 | 0x74 | | + | |fifteenth|15|116|0x74|D4 / QE|D3 / D| |
| - | | fifteenth | 15 | D5 | 117 | 0x75 | | + | |fifteenth|15|117|0x75|D5 / QF|D2 / C| |
| - | | fifteenth | 15 | D6 | 118 | 0x76 | | + | |fifteenth|15|118|0x76|D6 / QG|D1 / B| |
| - | | fifteenth | 15 | D7 | 119 | 0x77 | | + | |fifteenth|15|119|0x77|D7 / QH|D0 / A| |
| - | | ||||| | + | ||||||| |
| - | | sixteenth | 16 | D0 | 120 | 0x78 | | + | |sixteenth|16|120|0x7 8|D0 / QA|D7 / H| |
| - | | sixteenth | 16 | D1 | 121 | 0x79 | | + | |sixteenth|16|121|0x7 9|D1 / QB|D6 / G| |
| - | | sixteenth | 16 | D2 | 122 | 0x7a | | + | |sixteenth|16|122|0x7a|D2 / QC|D5 / F| |
| - | | sixteenth | 16 | D3 | 123 | 0x7b | | + | |sixteenth|16|123|0x7b|D3 / QD|D4 / E| |
| - | | sixteenth | 16 | D4 | 124 | 0x7c | | + | |sixteenth|16|124|0x7c|D4 / QE|D3 / D| |
| - | | sixteenth | 16 | D5 | 125 | 0x7d | | + | |sixteenth|16|125|0x7d|D5 / QF|D2 / C| |
| - | | sixteenth | 16 | D6 | 126 | 0x7e | | + | |sixteenth|16|126|0x7e|D6 / QG|D1 / B| |
| - | | sixteenth | 16 | D7 | 127 | 0x7f | | + | |sixteenth|16|127|0x7f|D7 / QH|D0 / A| |
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