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--- mb-lre8x2cs_pcb [2013/01/17 14:33]
fairlightiii created
+++ mb-lre8x2cs_pcb [2016/06/22 00:02]
psykhaze [MB-LRE8x2CS PCB / 16 LEDrings/Encoders Control Surface]
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-=====IMPORTANT FOR BULK ORDER LATECOMERS !=====
+====== MB-LRE8x2CS PCB / 16 LEDrings/Encoders Control Surface ======
-This bulk order is officialy closed but I have bought some extra PCBs for latecomers.
+Welcome to the wiki page of the control surface board featuring combo DINx4 and improved DOUTx4 modules with 16 LEDrings and 16 encoders.
-If you want ones, email me (jeromebo at free dot fr) the quantity you would like and your personal informations:
-  * Midibox username
-  * Paypal mail address
-  * Real name
-  * Postal address
-  * Country
-  * Level of shipping insurance you want to take.
-The price of each board is 9€ (I had to buy extra shipping material) and the Paypal fee on the total is 6.5% (with 5% I lost money).
-===== MB-LRE8x2CS PCB / 16 LEDrings/Encoders Control Surface=====
-Welcome to the wiki page of the bulk order of the control surface board featuring combo DINx4 and improved DOUTx4 modules with 16 LEDrings and 16 encoders.
-You can find the tread of this bulk order [[http://midibox.org/forums/topic/17378-control-surface-pcb-for-16-encodersledrings-bulk-order/ |here]].
 You can find the tread of the PCB design [[http://midibox.org/forums/topic/16973-dinx4-doutx4-schematic-verification/ |here]].
-This bulk order concern the last revision of the PCB that is rev 2.4.
+The last revision of the PCB is rev 2.5.
-The price is <del>14€</del> <del>11€</del> <del>9€</del> **8,50€** each PCB (+ shipping) - This price can be slightly less expensive regarding number of boards ordered -.
 It is a very practical and cheap way to make a midi controller with adding only a core or make a more important controller without having to wire LEDrings.
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 |Kingbright WP103HD|5x2x7mm rectangular|[[http://fr.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Kingbright/WP103HD/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs4quMj8r4lmhjquLrW8G4%252b6fJ5ym%2fib3s%3d|Mouser]]| |  X  | |Tk|
 |LED 3MM RT|3mm round|[[http://www.reichelt.de/LEDs-standard-hell/LED-3MM-RT/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=446;ARTICLE=10228;GROUPID=3018;artnr=LED+3MM+RT|Reichelt]]|  X  | | |Tk|
-|"10001"|5x2x7mm rectangular|[[http://www.auspiciousmall.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=78_1_2&products_id=19|auspiciousmall.com]]| |  X  | |Fairlightiii|
+|"10001"|5x2x7mm rectangular|[[http://www.auspiciousmall.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=78_1_2&products_id=19|auspiciousmall.com]]|  X  |  X  |Used without ULNs(prototype)|Fairlightiii|
 |Kingbright L-934ID|3mm round|[[http://www.segor.de/#Q=LED%203%20rt%20diffus%2050mcd%20630
 |Segor Electronics]]|  X  | | |rvlt|
+|Kingbright WP132XID|3mm round|[[http://fr.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Kingbright/WP132XID/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs4quMj8r4lmsNxrQ0ZQMdoZ/c/v7yOhNA= |Mouser]]|  X  | |Used without ULNs|grizz|
+|Kingbright WP132XID|3mm round|[[http://de.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Kingbright/WP132XID/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs4quMj8r4lmsNxrQ0ZQMdoZ%2fc%2fv7yOhNA%3d |Mouser]]| |  X  |Used withMIDIbox NG & ULNs|MaG2k|
+|Kingbright WP113SRDT|5x2x7mm rectangular|[[http://de.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Kingbright/WP113SRDT/?qs=%2fha2pyFadugD%2fTsmQfHeoZzOEu7l2adZD53TPtc4aU1OtJcXIaccXQ%3d%3d |Mouser]]| |  X  |Used withMIDIbox NG & ULNs|MaG2k|
+|smashTV is selling|3mm round|[[http://www.avishowtech.com/buy.html |smashTV]]| |  X  |Used withMIDIbox NG & ULNs|MaG2k|
+|Tayda Electronics|3mm round|[[http://www.taydaelectronics.com/leds/round-leds/3mm-leds/led-3mm-red.html |Tayda Electronics]]|  X  | |Used withMIDIbox NG & ULNs|MaG2k|
 ====Components====
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-=====BULK ORDER=====
+====Whishlist====
-  * The shipping charges from me to each member has to be add at the total price PCB(s)+ Mouser components.
-  * Payment is accepted only by PayPal (5% fees to add on the total including shipping).
-  * The eventually custom duty is the responsibility of each member.
-====Shipping Cost====
-I won't refund in case of the shipment get lost.
-^COUNTRY^Insurance level^  Number of PCB  ^^^^^^^^
-^:::^:::^  1  ^  2  ^  3  ^  4  ^  5  ^  6  ^  7  ^  8  ^
-|France|Without insurance|1,80 €|3,10 €|3,10 €|3,10 €|4,00 €|4,00 €|4,00 €|4,00 €|
-|France|With insurance 16€|6,18 €|7,03 €| | | | | | |
-|France|With insurance 153€| |7,63 €|7,63 €|7,63 €|8,58 €|8,58 €|8,58 €|8,58 €|
-|European Union (UK, Germany, Greece, …) & Swiss|Without insurance|4,10 €|6,10 €|6,10 €|6,10 €|8,75 €|8,75 €|8,75 €|8,75 €|
-|European Union (UK, Germany, Greece, …) & Swiss|With insurance 45€|9,70 €|11,70 €|11,70 €|11,70 €|14,35 €|//14,35 €//|//14,35 €//|//14,35 €//|
-|European Union (UK, Germany, Greece, …) & Swiss|With insurance 150€| | | | | |15,35 €|15,35 €|15,35 €|
-|Norway|Without insurance|5,60 €|7,35 €|7,35 €|7,35 €|10,80 €|10,80 €|10,80 €|10,80 €|
-|Norway|With insurance 45€|11,20 €|12,95 €|12,95 €|12,95 €|16,40 €|//16,40 €//|//16,40 €//|//16,40 €//|
-|Norway|With insurance 150€| | | | | |17,40 €|17,40 €|17,40 €|
-|US, Canada, Brazil, Australia, ...|Without insurance|5,60 €|7,35 €|7,35 €|7,35 €|10,80 €|10,80 €|10,80 €|10,80 €|
-|US, Canada, Brazil, Australia, ...|With insurance 45€|11,20 €|12,95 €|12,95 €|12,95 €|16,40 €|//16,40 €//|//16,40 €//|//16,40 €//|
-|US, Canada, Brazil, Australia, ...|With insurance 150€| | | | | |17,40 €|17,40 €|17,40 €|
-If you take "with insurance" you will be compensated of the amount of the insurance in case of lost of the parcel and your shipment is tracked (until your door in this country: Germany, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, UK, Hong-Kong, Ireland, Japan, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Slovakia, Sweden, Swiss and until the French frontier for the others country). In any case I receive a proof of delivery.
-For (french language) tracking page, it's [[http://www.laposte.fr/courrierinternational/index.php?id=430|here]].
-Fill the textbox "//Numéro de suivi//" with your number.
-If you take "without insurance" there's no tracking of the parcel.
-If your country is not in this table, or if you want more PCBs, PM or email me.
-====Time Frame====
-  * <del>Bulk order start: October 29th 2012.</del>
-  * <del>End of the list: November 18th 2012.</del>
-  * <del>I PM (or email) member with the total amount to pay: November 18th - 20th 2012.</del>
-  * <del>Payments will be accepted until November 25th 2012.</del>
-  * <del>I order the PCBs: November 26th 2012.</del>
-  * <del>PCBs arrive near the December 5th 2012.</del>
-  * <del>I ship the PCBs to each member: December 5th - 8th 2012.</del>
-  * <del>Time frame may be subject to change due to unforeseeable events.</del>
-Because there are [[http://midibox.org/forums/topic/17378-control-surface-pcb-for-16-encodersledrings-bulk-order/page__st__100__p__152923#entry152923|not enough stocked DIL resistor networks in Mouser shop]], this is the new time-frame:
-   * Bulk order start: October 29th 2012.
-   * End of the list: November 23th 2012.
-   * I PM (or email) member with the total amount to pay: November 24th - 26th 2012.
-   * Payments will be accepted until November 30th.
-   * I order the PCBs and the Mouser order: December 1st 2012.
-   * PCBs and Mouser order arrive near the December 12th 2012.
-   * I ship the PCBs and Mouser components to each member: December 13th - 15th 2012.
-====LIST====
-By putting your name on the list you agree to the terms and conditions described here: www.midibox.org/dokuwiki/nils_bulk_terms.
-Use your full and **correct FORUM (not the wiki) name**, so I can reach you via PM or email.
-Click on the "Edit this page" button (top left corner) and add your MIDIbox username and the number of components you would like.
-**UPDATE THE QUANTITIES TO THE END OF THE LIST.**
-**Do not edit anything else on this page** (except to correct my English or spelling mistakes!).
-^**Username**^  **PCB**  ^  **10k SIL RN**  ^  **220 Ohm DIL RN**  ^
-|:::|  **8,50€** (November 20th)  |  **0,08€** (November 20th)  |  **0,26€** (November 16th)  |
-|Fairlightiii|20|24|12|
-|jojjelito|8|64|16|
-|NorthernLightX|1| | |
-|rvlt|4|32|8 |
-|Hawkeye|8|64|16|
-|Lamouette|4|32|8|
-|Antix|2|40| |
-|shimoda|3|24|6|
-|monokinetic|2| | |
-|norbim1|2|16|4|
-|benuron|2|16|4|
-|defenestration|4|32|8|
-|kelargo|4|32|8|
-|TK|4|32|8|
-|johnniebee|4|32|8|
-|borbathegeek|2|16|4|
-|Beat|4|32|8|
-|gslug|4|32|8 |
-|grizz|4|32|8 |
-|latigid on|2|16 |4 |
-|zephyrin|2| | |
-|gtxdude|2| | |
-|Prosperity|2|16 | 4|
-|dnode|6|48|12|
-|ilmenator|4| | |
-|toadstool|2| 16| 4|
-|mburch|2 |16 |4 |
-|lylehaze|2|16|4|
-|V`cent|3|24|6|
-|TheProf|2| | |
-|anderspe|2|16|4|
-|taximan |8|64|16|
-|ermangaver|2|16|4|
-|Elektruck|8|70|20|
-|MaG2k|4|32|10|
-|dsdonnes|2|16|4|
-|shaduz|2|16|4|
-|103 Bert|1|8|2|
-|dinama|4|32|8|
-|ctrl+z|1|8|2|
-|gomiboy99|4| | |
-|raoulblues|4|32|10|
-|boops|4|32|10|
-|rosch|2| |4|
-|Dreadknot|1|10|8|
-|Milky|4|32|10|
-|HerrPaule|2|10|6|
-|sam|4|36|10|
-|fantomxr|2|20|6|
-|technobreath|1|8|2|
-|Mirmidi|4|32|8|
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-|**Total :**    |**181**|**1194**|**320**|
-====Bulk order update====
-As many people want some onboard components and as resistor networks (SIL and DIL) are not easy to find at good price for few quantity, I add a bulk order only for SIL and DIL resistor networks to this bulk order.
-Others components (except encoders) are easily "sourcable" on Internet.
-I have modified the list with 2 new columns.
-Importants informations:
-  *  I will make the Mouser order the same moment I will order the PCBs.
-  *  Only member which order PCB(s) can participate (...sorry!).
-  *  The weight (...and the price) of the shipping of the parcel to each member shouldn't be different (except maybe for 4 boards where the weight was very slightly less than the limit of 0.5kg: __But my kitchen food balance say me it should be ok__) - Well understood each member doesn't buy to much components! -
-  *  The price (in euros) of the [[http://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Bourns/4116R-1-221LF/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMvrmc6UYKmaNRuan3WLynlgAFnIEIuWu8Y%3d|652-4116R-1LF-220]] and the [[http://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Xicon/264-10K-RC/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMuVmbMdVqM8/AejIFOVsQF2|264-10K-RC]] will be the one Mouser propose regarding the quantity ordered for each item.
-**Jérôme** aka **Fairlightiii.**
------I tried to be clear but if I made a mistake or if I forgot something, don't hesitate to say it in the [[http://midibox.org/forums/topic/17378-control-surface-pcb-for-16-encodersledrings-bulk-order/ |forum]].-----
+For an eventual next revision of the PCB, this is a list of improvements that members are free to complete:
-=====PS: Excuse me for my poor English!=====
+  * <del>Changing IN/OUT sockets by polarized sockets and improving the silkscreen (to avoid confusing SI/SO pin)</del>.   //Tk// **Done**
+  * <del>Moving cap C5 (too close to the IN socket)</del>.   //Tk// **Done**
+  * <del>Trying to move some critical vias</del>.   //Fairlightiii// **Done**
+  * What about the use of ULN2803s?   //Fairlightiii// **Let them here for 8x2 configuration, not present on upcoming 4x2 and 8x1 boards**
+  * Trying to add DINX2 onboard to handle the 16 encoder switches (start/end of the chain?).   //Fairlightiii// **Not planned to be implemented**
+  * What about the size of the PCB?   //Fairlightiii// **Slightly less big (I won some mm in the edges)**
+  * new arrangment of encoders and LED-rings in 4x4 matrix?  //MaG2k// **Upcoming 4x2 and 8x1 boards**

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