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A place to catalogue analogue drum experiments, clonings, mods, hacks, bends, MIDIbox integration, specialised drum sequencers, MBSEQ firmware, SID as drum machine, triggering, E-Drum heads etc etc etc. | A place to catalogue analogue drum experiments, clonings, mods, hacks, bends, MIDIbox integration, specialised drum sequencers, MBSEQ firmware, SID as drum machine, triggering, E-Drum heads etc etc etc. |
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==== Related pages on this wiki and ucapps.de : ==== | ==== Related pages on this wiki and ucapps.de : ==== |
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**[[midibox_seq|MIDIBox SEQ v2]]** - a simple control surface can be built with 16 LEDs/switches and one encoder (according to the SEQ Drum Mode tutorial below), and still have full access to this [[http://www.ucapps.de/midibox_seq.html|amazing sequencer engine]]. Up to 48 seperate MIDI drum note assignments x 16 steps. | **[[midibox_seq|MIDIBox SEQ v2]]** - a simple control surface can be built with 16 LEDs/switches and one encoder (according to the SEQ Drum Mode tutorial below), and still have full access to this [[http://www.ucapps.de/midibox_seq.html|amazing sequencer engine]]. Up to 48 seperate MIDI drum note assignments x 16 steps. |
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Can also take an [[aout_module_analog_out|AOUT module]] for [[http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php?topic=6192.msg44981#msg44981|up to four]] CVs outs. The DOUTx4 expansion mentioned under MIDIO128 below could possibly be coded in. | Can also take an [[aout_module|AOUT module]] for [[http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php?topic=6192.msg44981#msg44981|up to four]] CVs outs. The DOUTx4 expansion mentioned under MIDIO128 below could possibly be coded in. |
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With added code, a LED matrix to display all drum patterns simultanously may also be possible, as in the [[trsequencer#sds6|Simmons SDS6]]. Moxi has already implemented a 4x16 button/LED matrix, and TK has indicated up 1024 may be possible (in MIOS, not necessarily in the SEQ). [[http://www.ucapps.de/midibox_seq/mbseq_dout_v2_ledmatrix.pdf|4x16 LED matrix wiring]] - **PDF**. Also see the [[http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/categories.php|Sparkfun]] parts listed below. | With added code, a LED matrix to display all drum patterns simultanously may also be possible, as in the [[trsequencer#sds6|Simmons SDS6]]. Moxi has already implemented a 4x16 button/LED matrix, and TK has indicated up 1024 may be possible (in MIOS, not necessarily in the SEQ). [[http://www.ucapps.de/midibox_seq/mbseq_dout_v2_ledmatrix.pdf|4x16 LED matrix wiring]] - **PDF**. Also see the [[http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/categories.php|Sparkfun]] parts listed below. |
**[[midio128|MIDIO128]]** - up to 128 on/off signals and 128 input switches from one core. Useful for a simple fixed velocity MIDI to trigger/gate converter, sequenced from other equipment or software. A user adaption has added a [[how_to_use_midibox_cv_with_a_dout|DOUTx4 module]] for another 32 fixed velocity trigger outs. | **[[midio128|MIDIO128]]** - up to 128 on/off signals and 128 input switches from one core. Useful for a simple fixed velocity MIDI to trigger/gate converter, sequenced from other equipment or software. A user adaption has added a [[how_to_use_midibox_cv_with_a_dout|DOUTx4 module]] for another 32 fixed velocity trigger outs. |
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**[[midibox_cv|MIDIBox CV]]** - 8 gates and 2 analog CVs per AOUT module. Could be adapted for velocity triggers? | **[[midibox_cv_v1|MIDIBox CV]]** - 8 gates and 2 analog CVs per AOUT module. Could be adapted for velocity triggers? |
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**[[trsequencer|TR Sequencer]]** - User project page to define and re-create the classic Roland TR-x0x drum sequencer user interface | **[[trsequencer|TR Sequencer]]** - Discussion on the classic Roland TR-x0x drum sequencer user interface |
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**[[dseq32|DSEQ32]]** - mess's 32 step 8 track drum sequencer | **[[dseq32|DSEQ32]]** - mess's 32 step 8 track drum sequencer |
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**[[http://www.ucapps.de/mios_download.html|MIOS Downloads]]** - Code examples for:\\ | **[[http://www.ucapps.de/mios_download.html|MIOS Downloads]]** - Code examples for:\\ |
[[http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php?topic=2930.0|Diode matrix input]] - large matrix with MIDIO128\\ | [[http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php?topic=2930.0|Diode matrix input]] - large matrix with MIDIO128\\ |
[[http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php?topic=5626.0|80 LEDs from one CORE]]\\ | [[http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php?topic=5626.0|80 LEDs from one CORE]]\\ |
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==== Other resources ==== | ==== Other resources ==== |
[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CV/Gate#Gate|V-Trig, S-Trig and Gate]] - from Wikipedia\\ | [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CV/Gate#Gate|V-Trig, S-Trig and Gate]] - from Wikipedia\\ |
[[http://www.synthesizers.com/gates.html|Gates and Triggers, Mystery Solved]] - from synthesizers.com\\ | [[http://www.synthesizers.com/gates.html|Gates and Triggers, Mystery Solved]] - from synthesizers.com\\ |
[[http://m.bareille.free.fr/midi2pic/midi2pic.htm|PIC MIDI programming]] - getting started | [[http://m.bareille.free.fr/midi2pic/midi2pic.htm|PIC MIDI programming]] - getting started\\ |
| [[http://www.tomwiltshire.co.uk/sdiy/index.html|VC LFO and ADSR on PIC 16s]] - cloning analogue LFO and ADSR with PICs. |
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__ Drum pads and EDrums __ | __ Drum pads and EDrums __ |
[[http://edrum.for.free.fr/modules.php?name=Content&pa=list_pages_categories&cid=1|EDrum For Free]] - great DIY site, heaps of designs for pads, triggers, pedals, hats etc | [[http://edrum.for.free.fr/modules.php?name=Content&pa=list_pages_categories&cid=1|EDrum For Free]] - great DIY site, heaps of designs for pads, triggers, pedals, hats etc |
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| __ Yahoo Groups __ |
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| [[http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tr-707/|TR-707]] - Service manual, schematics, mods: you'll need to join to access files.\\ |
| [[http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/drummachine/|Drummachine]] - moderator approval to join\\ |
| [[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Roland_Drum_Machines/|Roland Drum Machines]]\\ |
| [[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rolandtr505/|rolandtr505]]\\ |
| [[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simmons_Drums/?yguid=9150350|Simmons_Drums]] - schematics and service manuals galore\\ |
| [[http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=circuit+bending&submit=Search|Circuit Bending]] - just a list of search results |
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| ==== Useful Parts ==== |
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__ RGB Matrix __ | __ RGB Matrix __ |
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[[http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/categories.php|Sparkfun Electronics]] have an [[http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=760|8x8 RGB LED Matrix]] with a serial controller attached for $59.95. There are some other two and three colour matrices listed on the same page. | [[http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/categories.php|Sparkfun Electronics]] have an [[http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=760|8x8 RGB LED Matrix]] with an SPI serial controller attached for $59.95. Red/Green version $34.95, matrix only small $4.95 large $29.95.\\ The serial controller backpack contains a reprogrammable AVR ATMega8 microcontroller, which bumps up the value equation and opens a world of possibilities, such as LED sensors. |
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__ 4x4 lighted key matrix __ | __ 4x4 lighted key matrix __ |
According to [[http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php?topic=7116.msg46551|this forum thread]], [[http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/categories.php|Sparkfun]] will also soon be offering "silicone illuminated buttons ... 4x4 arrays that will cost between $20 and $30 U.S ... with 5mm holes for our tri-color LEDs." | According to [[http://www.midibox.org/forum/index.php?topic=7116.msg46551|this forum thread]], [[http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/categories.php|Sparkfun]] will also soon be offering "silicone illuminated buttons ... 4x4 arrays that will cost between $20 and $30 U.S ... with 5mm holes for our tri-color LEDs." |
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__ Yahoo Groups __ | __ High power shift register __ |
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| [[http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=734|Shift register 8 bit high power]] - serial in, 8 pins out at up to 50V/150mA each. $1.95. Sparkfun again :) This would be handy for triggering modules that expect more than +5V as from a DOUT. |
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[[http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tr-707/|TR-707]] - Service manual, schematics, mods: you'll need to join to access files.\\ | |
[[http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/drummachine/|Drummachine]] - moderator approval to join\\ | |
[[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Roland_Drum_Machines/|Roland Drum Machines]]\\ | |
[[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rolandtr505/|rolandtr505]]\\ | |
[[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simmons_Drums/?yguid=9150350|Simmons_Drums]] - schematics and service manuals galore\\ | |
[[http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=circuit+bending&submit=Search|Circuit Bending]] - just a list of search results | |
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__ Schematics: __ | ==== Schematics: ==== |
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[[http://elists.resynthesize.com/analogue-heaven/1996/06/200906/|S-Trig to V-Trig converter]] - also see below. 505/707 internal triggers are S-Trig.\\ | [[http://elists.resynthesize.com/analogue-heaven/1996/06/200906/|S-Trig to V-Trig converter]] - also see below. 505/707 internal triggers are S-Trig.\\ |
[[http://www.retrosynth.com/docs/trigger/index.html|V-Trig to S-Trig converter]] - different one below\\ | [[http://www.retrosynth.com/docs/trigger/index.html|V-Trig to S-Trig converter]] - different one below\\ |
| [[http://www.getlofi.com/?p=743|Simple switch/trigger with transistors]] - ground switch with NPN or +ve pulse with PNP. The example given uses a PC parallel port and the [[http://www.mikmo.dk/cbsequencer.html|BendControl]] Win95 sequencer\\ |
[[http://www.deepchild.com/images/arista_schem.jpg|Arista Drum machine]]\\ | [[http://www.deepchild.com/images/arista_schem.jpg|Arista Drum machine]]\\ |
[[http://http://www.matrixsynth.com/blog/media/misc/syntholliescans/|SynthOllie's scans]] - Boss PC-2 Percussion with noise generator mod, Boss handclap, Casio VL-1, clap, synbal, synclap, syntom II.\\ | [[http://www.matrixsynth.com/blog/media/misc/syntholliescans/|SynthOllie's scans]] - Boss PC-2 Percussion with noise generator mod, Boss handclap, Casio VL-1, clap, synbal, synclap, syntom II.\\ |
[[http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2006/06/more-scans-by-synth-ollie.html|Matrixsynth blog entry]] - where I got the link to synthollie and also a SynTom II and Cymbal II Zip file. | [[http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2006/06/more-scans-by-synth-ollie.html|Matrixsynth blog entry]] - where I got the link to synthollie and also a SynTom II and Cymbal II Zip file.\\ |
| [[http://m.bareille.free.fr/synth.htm|Papareil Synth Labs]] - Coron Drum Synth clone schematics, also lots of other FX and synth modules, MIDI projects, etc. |
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== Roland TR-505 8x trigger out mod == | __Roland TR-505 8x trigger out mod__ |
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<code>R80 - Kick | <code>R80 - Kick |
R60 - Toms</code> | R60 - Toms</code> |
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== S-Trig to V-Trig converter == | __S-Trig to V-Trig converter__ |
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<code>This will produce a voltage | <code>This will produce a voltage |
--- ground</code> | --- ground</code> |
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== V-Trig to S-Trig (another) == | __V-Trig to S-Trig (another)__ |
<code>The circuit that I have is very simple. One VMOS FET (something like the | <code>The circuit that I have is very simple. One VMOS FET (something like the |
VN10KM). No power, nothing... | VN10KM). No power, nothing... |
mixed up, coz I'm doing this from a bad memory)</code> | mixed up, coz I'm doing this from a bad memory)</code> |
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__ To do: __ | ==== To do: ==== |
| * MBFM drums (duh)\\ |
* Jamaroonies\\ | * Jamaroonies\\ |
* 505/707 as trigger source\\ | * 505/707 as trigger source\\ |
* LED matrix\\ | * LED matrix\\ |